tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381314.post8117822941563750252..comments2023-10-11T10:08:09.664-05:00Comments on Willful Grace: Questiongracehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16353719852472577554noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381314.post-34874694065970221992008-06-26T09:37:00.000-05:002008-06-26T09:37:00.000-05:00t-dub...lots to talk about that has been going on ...t-dub...lots to talk about that has been going on with me over the past...lets say..year.<BR/><BR/>get in touch with me. email me.<BR/><BR/>dannybrou@yahoo.comDannybrouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08064286071036690159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381314.post-28824327844088849812008-06-26T07:54:00.000-05:002008-06-26T07:54:00.000-05:00Thanks guys! I talked to him yesterday and he's b...Thanks guys! I talked to him yesterday and he's been working on it!!! hee hee!<BR/><BR/>As soon as it's up I'll make an announcement. I'm considering this my revenge for not getting to be the one to throw him a wild and lavish FORTIETH birthday party/roast last month!<BR/>*evil grin*gracehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16353719852472577554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381314.post-41013554505123951562008-06-25T17:34:00.000-05:002008-06-25T17:34:00.000-05:00Tdub, BLOG! ;o) How's that? :DBut seriously, it w...Tdub, BLOG! ;o) How's that? :D<BR/>But seriously, it would be an honor to read your blog as it has been an honor to be here. I have two friends who I so wish I could introduce you to! He went through much of what you have gone through. Also, may I give a plug here for Evangelicals Concerned? Their annual conference is coming up. I'm putting in the website for you to look up if you wish. Also, I'm so sorry for being rude to you on your last post here. <BR/>Hugs, Kat<BR/><BR/>www.ecwr.orgKathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06660392650527314409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381314.post-61769146480565867952008-06-25T08:41:00.000-05:002008-06-25T08:41:00.000-05:00T-dub ~ I would be very interested in your perspec...T-dub ~ I would be very interested in your perspective and would most definately be interested in your blog - I was already captivated by your heartfelt comment.<BR/><BR/>Pam, you are a blessing (at the risk of sounding redundant), and I am in awe of the love and grace shared between you and T-dub. Thank you both for letting us in to witness the beautiful attributes of our Creators character. You are both a testimony of His healing and love.Curlzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10250222920395684646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381314.post-55611069169259215362008-06-24T16:50:00.000-05:002008-06-24T16:50:00.000-05:00I always appreciate how "real" you seem to be. It...I always appreciate how "real" you seem to be. It's really inspiring to watch your growth by reading your blog. Thank you for being so open and encouraging to the people who surround you--especially t-dub!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381314.post-55394098615723588212008-06-24T14:05:00.000-05:002008-06-24T14:05:00.000-05:00I would love to read Tdub's blog. Admittedly, for...I would love to read Tdub's blog. Admittedly, for my own selfish curiousity, I've always wanted to hear Tdub's perspective first hand. <BR/><BR/>As a Willful Grace fan club member, I can't imagine any other fellow fan club member not treating Tdub's blog with same grace and compassion Pam's posts have shown.Norm!https://www.blogger.com/profile/10925789885737585791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381314.post-39445083628993307482008-06-24T13:04:00.000-05:002008-06-24T13:04:00.000-05:00Hi Pam, Tdub,Yes, if Tdub started a blog, I would ...Hi Pam, Tdub,<BR/><BR/>Yes, if Tdub started a blog, I would most certainly subscribe to it and read it.<BR/><BR/>Here's why. I am a "straight" Christian from the UK. Lately, a number of events coinciding have brought me the sense God is calling me to look into this much more deeply, and also the sense that the traditional evangelical approach to homosexuals is cruel and wrong.<BR/><BR/>Here's something I'd like to share; with some trepidation! Our church is slightly wacky-charismatic in orientation, and though I'm often diffident about these things, I'm open to listening to what the spirit has to say. One evening service, on a series about spiritual gifts, we were encouraged in an open session to speak out if we got pictures, and to be bold. I wasn't bold enough to take the opportunity then, but the picture I "received" (just popped into my mind as it were) was quite disturbing. It involved a man who was wrapped in a cocoon, but the cocoon wasn't protecting him, but was trapping him. I got the sense of his total panic in trying to get out, and also the sense that God wanted to remove the layers under which he was trapped. On thinking about it, it seems to me the cocoon represented homophobia.<BR/><BR/>I am very much aware, through some voluntary counselling work I do, that many homosexuals struggle with unwanted attractions, and that this struggle leads to despair and misery - often to suicidal thoughts. I think that because the evangelical church offers no realistic alternative but celibacy, that we are contributing to that misery and will be judged for it.<BR/><BR/>Hence I want very much to interact with gay Christians; to listen to what they've got to say, and to have fellowship with them.<BR/><BR/>I've presented my views on two "Christians in Science" email lists, with a variety of responses. Some have been very supportive and say they agree with me (also straight Christians). Some have been a bit bigoted, and have not shown much evidence of listening. The more scientifically oriented ones tend to be the more sympathetic, as they can see the evidence that orientation isn't something you choose is very compelling.<BR/><BR/>So, Tdub, if you don't think I'm a total nutball for posting these thoughts; I'd be very keen to read your blog and listen to what you have to say. From what you say above, I get the sense of a lot of anger and pain because of the struggles you've been through, and I'm not surprised. Writing, and having people listen and not judge you is one of the best ways of dealing with "stuff".<BR/><BR/>Oh, dear .... sounds like I'm twisting your arm, doesn't it?<BR/><BR/>I mean ... you don't have to do it ... honest ... only if you feel like it! :-)Iainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04685228974985888660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381314.post-6062270897622849922008-06-24T11:49:00.000-05:002008-06-24T11:49:00.000-05:00To answer the original question, heck yeah!-- Jarr...To answer the original question, heck yeah!<BR/><BR/>-- Jarred.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381314.post-2329110953199374392008-06-24T10:43:00.000-05:002008-06-24T10:43:00.000-05:00OK THIS IS SO UNFAIR!!!Shameless manipulation I te...OK <BR/><BR/>THIS IS SO UNFAIR!!!<BR/><BR/>Shameless manipulation I tell you!<BR/><BR/><BR/>Seriously...I know I need to WRITE, if for no other reason than to exorcise everything that's stuffed up in my brain that I very rarely leak--except in rare circumstances here on this blog....<BR/><BR/>But I know I have things to say, experiences to share, ideas to challenge that might help others in my situation...things to say that are (or should be?) part of my vocation, part of my mission, as if I have been called to stand up for those of us who have been treated as "the least of these...."...who have lived lives of pain and confusion and hurt...who have been abandoned by those who profess to love [or don't know how to love] them... who have inadvertently hurt others in the wake of trying to survive .... who might be emotionally stunted or exhausted trying to be something they will never be instead of being everything they have been created to be....<BR/><BR/>...to show them that they can indeed survive ...that you can grow (daresay <I>flourish?</I>...that they can still experience God's love...that they can receive forgiveness...that...<BR/><BR/>...<B>they can <I>live</I>.</B><BR/><BR/>OH Crap.<BR/>That sounds like a blog intro, doesn't it???<BR/><BR/>*augh*<BR/><BR/>Thanks a <I>LOT</I>, Grace. <BR/><BR/>grrr mutter mutter grr.t-dubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11048300874193038894noreply@blogger.com