tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381314.post3546774623084260721..comments2023-10-11T10:08:09.664-05:00Comments on Willful Grace: The Problem with Advice...and Sin, and some other stuffgracehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16353719852472577554noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381314.post-57389070515317586602007-12-29T01:19:00.000-06:002007-12-29T01:19:00.000-06:00Pam,After reading what you said here I thought you...Pam,<BR/><BR/>After reading what you said here I thought you would appreciate reading what I wrote to some same-sex attracted men who wanted to find wives:<BR/><BR/>Although I know men who struggle with SSA and are happily both husbands and fathers, I just can’t remain silent on this subject. I want to tell part of my story here but I have to be careful on this. It involves a girl who would not want her story on the internet, so I will leave out some details. You see, I was once in a relationship with a Christian girl and we were starting to talk about marriage. As soon as she found out about my SSA she ended it immediately. That hit me so hard it took me years to sort everything out and learn from it. What I learned was that friendship alone is not enough to start a marriage. If my love is not deeply heartfelt and passionate enough, I just should not marry.<BR/><BR/>You are both wise not to hide your struggles with SSA from any girl you intend to marry. You need to find one who is understanding and compassionate. They do exist, but not every Christian girl is able to handle this.<BR/><BR/>Remember, above all you are pursuing God, not a heterosexual orientation.MRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16747154844168947527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381314.post-47606957399430745142007-12-23T09:01:00.000-06:002007-12-23T09:01:00.000-06:00Yeah, Pam, not only do I not take drugs, I wouldn'...Yeah, Pam, not only do I not take drugs, I wouldn't even let my kid have a hot chocolate last night when we went to see Santa at the <A HREF="http://209.232.44.21/coolthings/parks/Tilden/Carousel.html" REL="nofollow">Tilden Park Carousel</A>. He had to make do with plain milk. Chocolate and four-year-olds, man. Dangerous combination.<BR/><BR/>So yeah, that's my crazy gay lifestyle. Driving through Tilden with my high beams on, dodging woodland creatures, looking for Santa. Wading through a sea of preschoolers and riding a wooden zebra. I'm livin' on the edge. Don't try to stop me!<BR/><BR/>And as for the main point of your post, yes, you are absolutely right. The struggle in your marriage was worse than X or Y. Or A through W, probably. Not because there was any greater sin involved than you would find in situations X or Y, but because a gay man hiding in a heterosexual marriage is like a rhinoceros trying to hide in a pup tent. Sooner or later that pup tent is going to fall apart.kurt_thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11976326822025517963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381314.post-31366770833816004582007-12-22T03:08:00.000-06:002007-12-22T03:08:00.000-06:00Maybe, in fact, your offering a life giving sugges...Maybe, in fact, your offering a life giving suggestion from the actions of Jesus. With those scrolls we find....what if we are right? What if we are wrong? More importantly, Jesus did treat people with worth and value. They were not a product of their sin, nor were they condemned by it. He empowered them to be honest and decide what they would do. He empowered them in viewing the world differently.<BR/><BR/>I hope your voice grows loud and strong!<BR/><BR/>Have a great Holiday, my condolences for the hard moments!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381314.post-82009587297118680872007-12-20T19:09:00.000-06:002007-12-20T19:09:00.000-06:00Hey Grace,Amen! Let's get the christian and model...Hey Grace,<BR/>Amen! Let's get the christian and model of christ back into the church.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381314.post-67668085675329752552007-12-18T16:20:00.000-06:002007-12-18T16:20:00.000-06:00The church does more to empower sin than the devil...The church does more to empower sin than the devil ever could.<BR/><BR/>This is so true. I did not act on any part of my being gay until after counseling with a pastor and beginning group therapy. It was therapy where I learned the things I was ignorant to. I accept my decision making and do own that, but at the same time, the "struggle" was made much stronger with the condemnation, group sessions and pastoral counseling.<BR/><BR/>I openly confess that my sin was being untruthful to my wife, and adultery. I was in therapy and counseling over six months before I was even able to tell here why I was going in the first place.<BR/><BR/>Thank you so much Pam for the continuation of the first post. Healing continues in a big way for me through your thoughts and writing.Mark Huffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06094151983659764811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381314.post-11303461952430494142007-12-17T09:03:00.000-06:002007-12-17T09:03:00.000-06:00Hi Rbo!Timothy: Thanks for your thoughts and pray...Hi Rbo!<BR/><BR/>Timothy: Thanks for your thoughts and prayers...I've only had one "breakdown" so far. Sometimes it does just "kick me in the gut" from no where...still. <BR/><BR/>Jarred: You're such a loyal commenter...and I DO appreciate your thoughts about my thoughts. I want you to know that I read your blog as well...one of these days I'll get around to putting you over there on my friends list.gracehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16353719852472577554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381314.post-73983127293846029452007-12-17T08:47:00.000-06:002007-12-17T08:47:00.000-06:00The church does more to empower sin than the devil...<I>The church does more to empower sin than the devil ever could.</I><BR/><BR/>Let me just say that I'm so glad to hear someone else say this. You're the best, Pam!<BR/><BR/>I also appreciate you letting everyone know that not all of us gay men are out abusing drugs and having orgies. Not even all the non-Christian ones!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381314.post-40287179143225599762007-12-16T02:42:00.000-06:002007-12-16T02:42:00.000-06:00Hi Pam,I haven't checked in for a while and wanted...Hi Pam,<BR/><BR/>I haven't checked in for a while and wanted to say HI and that I hope all is going well for you.<BR/><BR/>I know the holiday season can sometimes be tough, so know that there's someone out here thinking about you during this time.<BR/><BR/>TimothyTimothy Kincaidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04048901225881120312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381314.post-7156154642041724622007-12-15T13:47:00.000-06:002007-12-15T13:47:00.000-06:00amen, sister. let's get the christ back in christ...amen, sister. let's get the christ back in christianity.Robert W. Whitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00657600773319456108noreply@blogger.com